• Pointe Shoe Fitting

    Our passion! A complex, important and exciting issue!

    Frequently asked questions:-

     

    1)How old should you be to start Pointe?

     

    Really, there is no absolute answer for what age – what is important is that every dancer is individually assessed and considered, looking at both her physical dance ability and maturity. Yes, age is important in that you need to be mentally mature enough (just getting properly fitted for pointe shoes requires a lot of maturity, let alone dancing en Pointe). You also need to have enough physical maturity. We know that the bones in the feet are some of the last to harden, and that before they harden, the growth plates are at risk of damage. We know that just before the onset of puberty/ menstruation, there is a significant growth spurt, and at this time, hormonal changes make ligaments more flexible, growth plates are active, and dancers can become clumsier, so starting pointe during this growth spurt really places the dancer at extra risk of injury. Of course, there is a vast difference between a girl who is doing ballet once a week, and one who is training much more intensively- the one who is training 3-4 times a week has much more muscle strength and technique to help protect her, so for her, starting pointe a bit earlier is not as much of a worry (though good care and preparation is still vital- one cannot afford to damage these young dancers before their career has begun!) Again, the use of demi pointe shoes during this growth spurt can be very helpful in continuing strength work while reducing injury risk. Ask your teacher if you can progress to demi-Pointe shoes first.

     

    See this IADMS resource paper for more:-

     

    2) Why do you need intrinsic foot muscle strength?

     

    When the foot is in the pointe shoe, correctly pointed (long straight toes) and correctly supported in the shoe, it is the intrinsic foot muscles that do all the work, supporting most of the body weight. When a shoe is too big, and the toes are all scrumpled in the shoe, the leg muscles have to do the work, to hold the foot out of the shoe, and the lovely line at the ankle is lost.

    Intrinsic muscles can be strengthened with use of demi pointe shoes, and exercises such as metatarsal lifts, therabands, wobble boards and other exercises. None of these exercises take very long and should be done daily.

     

    There are many excellent resources for good exercises- some of the below links may be helpful:

     

    Tendu Exercise- Lisa Howell

     

    Arch Control- Lisa Howell

     

    Rises - exercise for pointe work- Lisa Howell

     

    Pointe through Demi pointe- exercise for pointe- Lisa Howell

    Intrinsic foot muscle control

     

    3) Why are demi-Pointe shoes essential in preparing for pointe?

     

    We were not anatomically designed to stand on our toes in pointe shoes, yet most people, when they think of ballet, imagine a dancer on pointe, and so it is every girl’s dream to reach that stage whether a hobby dancer or not. Teachers therefore often feel pressure to put girls on pointe for fear of them giving up ballet. We are faced with a situation then of many girls going on pointe before they are truly ready, and often finding it so painful that they then give up ballet anyway. In addition to taking up an extra hour of ballet a week, and doing many preparatory foot, ankle and core strength exercises, Esther Joun believes that demi pointe shoes have an amazing role to play, and we agree for even more reasons than originally proposed. Ultimately they can make the teacher, the dancer and the pointe shoe fitter’s life much much easier! Why? Well, a demi-pointe shoe:

    - encourages better ankle control and balance due its thicker sole,

    - works the intrinsic muscles in the foot much harder

    - gets the foot used to working in a confined space

    - and, looks like a pointe shoe- the emotional aspects of starting pointe for the older girls in a ballet school are often overlooked. To the observer outside a class, they cannot tell whether a girl is wearing Pointes or Demis, and so if half the girls in the class are on pointe and some are not, it is not so easily noticeable. It means everybody can stay working in their Demi pointe shoes until they are individually ready to move up to full Pointe.

    - Makes fitting of a pointe shoe far easier when the time comes- our experience is that it is dramatically quicker to get to the required supportive fit.

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    According to Alison Whitaker, BSc (Hons) GSR, Sports Rehabilitator, specialising in Dance, the design of demi-pointe shoes provides a transition stage between soft ‘flatties’ and pointe shoes that better prepare the feet for the higher demands of pointe work when they are worn before pointe work starts. See this Article

     

    Many dancers, however, go straight from soft ‘flatties’ to Pointe shoes in this critical stage of their training. Without a gradual transition phase between shoes the dancer is more likely to suffer an injury later on because they haven’t been as carefully prepared for the higher demands expected of them in Pointe work. It is therefore advisable that a young dancer wears demi-Pointe shoes for at least six months before they start Pointe work in line with preparatory strengthening exercises so as to improve their competence on pointe and decrease their chances of injury.

     

    Grishko makes a super range of soft blocks/ demi’s/ exam shoes- the best seller being the 2007 Exam. We have noticed a big difference in girls who wear demi-Pointes first- ask your teacher if you can progress to them.

     

    4) Why do you need excellent core muscles and good turnout?

     

    When you dance on pointe you not only rely on the shoe for support, but also to dance 'out' of the shoe needing huge strength in your legs, hips and abdominal muscles. Pointe work is not just about feet. Core stability is as important- it does not matter how strong your feet and ankles are, if your body is not correctly aligned, and your core stability is weak, dancing on pointe could be more difficult. It is much healthier and safer for you to take slightly longer preparing your body, allowing some skeletal maturity to have taken place, than to have started at a too young an age, maybe causing you damage that could bring your dancing to an early finish.

     

     

    5) Why do Grishko Pointes need to be fitted so snugly?

     

    Grishkos are designed to support the whole foot, encasing and gripping the metatarsal heads into the box. When a Grishko fits correctly, the shank of the shoe melts into the arch, supporting the rest of the foot. If a shoe is too big, this will never happen. The dancer will also not be able to get over the box, and will not be able to pull herself out of the shoe. This creates uneven balance on the shank and box and leads to early breakdown

     

       

     

    A snugly fitting shoe looks like part of the foot (left) With pointe shoes that are too large (right) , the shank cannot mould with the arch even with full body weight on the foot- this is an SS shoe which should mould easily into the arch but there is so much padding in the shoe that it cannot fit properly!

     

    6) Why is shape of the pointe shoe and vamp height important?

     

    Pointe shoes in our opinion should be considered an extension of a dancer’s foot, so when buying a pointe shoe you firstly need to look at the shape of your foot, then look at the available Pointes to see which shoe matches your foot shape and start there.

     

    Choosing the wrong shape pointe shoe can lead to the following:- A square box that is too wide for your foot, will feel like your foot is sinking down to the floor causing pain in the toes. With short toes and the vamp too long, you will have problems rolling up to pointe. With long toes and the vamp too short, you may not have enough support. You need to find the correct vamp height that allows your foot to roll up onto pointe yet be able to push the shoe over so that the whole platform is being used. If you find the correct Grishko shoe for your foot but find the vamp is too high or low, talk to your fitter- Grishko can reduce the height, or change a round vamp shape to a v shape. This will be a Special Order and you will need to allow 6-8 weeks for your shoes to be made. If you are unable to push right over the platform, the vamp height should be looked at first .

     

     

    The Grishko shoe on the right looks like part of the dancer’s foot. The one on the left looks big. bulky, inelegant.

     

    7) Sewing on Pointe Shoe Ribbons

     

    Everyone has their own way of sewing on ribbons but we believe this method is one of the most secure, and really helps the shoe and foot work together, with the heel piece securely attached.

     

    Each pair of Pointe shoes requires about 2.5m of Pointe shoe ribbon. You may get away with less if you are very tiny, or need more of you are bigger. See the below video for a detailed explanation

     

     

    VIDEO

     

    8) Breaking in Pointe Shoes

     

    Each Grishko pointe shoe is beautifully hand crafted. Please do not hammer, shut them in doors, bend them over the barre, bend them with your hands or anything else that will damage them.  This can make them unsafe. Grishko will not replace any shoes that have been tampered with in this way. If one part of a shoe is compromised through ‘breaking’ or bashing, other parts are put under too much strain and will break!

     

    The best way is on your feet, when all the parts of the shoe are supported together. Pointe shoes should be prepared correctly before dancing in them. Treat them with respect and they will serve you well. Don’t do any breaking in unless your teacher is happy with your shoes, or has such a rapport with your local fitter that she is usually happy with the fitting.

     

    Face the barre, with two hands on the barre for support.

     

    1) Rise onto pointe, then roll down, very slowly, on both feet.

     

    2) Pony trots, alternating feet.

     

    3) Rise onto pointe, bend both knees forwards and push over on to, and right over the box.

     

    4) Repeat, but on alternate feet.

     

    5) repeat steps 1 to 4 in turnout position.

     

    (Repeat until you find the shoes softening at the demi- pointe break)

     

    You can also wear your new shoes around the house with a pair of socks over them (never go up and down stairs), or even sleep in them!

     

    Lisa Howell has a good way of getting the shoe to start breaking in the right place- do it VERY VERY GENTLY !! (see video link here)

     

    Breaking in pointe shoes- Lisa Howell

     

    NB: The DreamPointe shoe requires no breaking in, and should not be manhandled as the plastic shank will snap. It is already ‘bendy’

     

    9) Caring for Grishko Pointe shoes

     

    Grishko’s are renowned for their durability but you do have to look after them!

     

    Always make sure your shoe fits you properly- a shoe that doesn’t fit well will not last as the pressures on the different parts of the shoe are unbalanced.

    Break your shoes in carefully according to the suggestions above.

    After your have worn your shoes for the first time, mark them Left and Right

    Each day, after class, pop your feet back into your shoes to get their shape back, take out any padding you may have used, and them hang them up to dry thoroughly.

    If you do several classes a week, do buy 2 pairs at a time so you can rotate them and let them dry. If the box is danced on when wet, it will break down and more stress will be put on the shank causing it to break early.

     

    10) When is a shoe dead?

     

    If you are dancing en Pointe daily, then you need to own more than one pair of shoes. These dancers should have a minimum of 3 pairs on the go at the same time, changing them after 45- 60 mins of work. If your feet perspire heavily, change them after 30 mins work. Pointe shoes will last longer if they are changed, drying out thoroughly for a MINIMUM of 24 hours before re using. (take any padding out!) The average life span of a pair of shoes is actually only 4-12 hours of work, of course that does depends on the type of classes you are taking and level of pointe work you are studying. When Pointe shoes have reached the end of their life, injuries can occur. An experienced dancer will know when her shoe is worn out, but if you are new to Pointe work, then please ask your teacher for advice.

     

    Pointe shoes usually need to be replaced when

    • either the platform is no longer stiff,

    • the toe box has become too soft,

    or the shank no longer offers you the support you are used to.

     

    You need to be aware enough to notice these things. You may:

    • start feeling pain in areas you never felt before,

    • find you are no longer able to push right over the box,

    • be falling off pointe when you try to balance, or

    find yourself falling forwards out of turns.

     

    If the toe box or shank becomes mushy, soft, cracked or damaged in any way, it is definitely time for a new pair of shoes. A lot of dancers only use the shank as a guide to when a pair of shoes needs to be replaced, but the box is essential too for support of all those toe joints.

     

    Never dance in shoes that have become too soft as the shoe could collapse

     

    NB- when wearing the DreamPointe:- Once the box has lost its support, you should stop wearing the shoes (you should for any style of shoes) but in the DreamPointe this is more important, as without the support from the box, the shank of shoe may ‘snap’ suddenly.

     

    11) Why should I not buy Pointe shoes on the internet?

     

    In order to find the right pair of pointe shoes for you, a good pointe shoe fitter will try on at least 2 shapes and probably 5-6 pairs of shoes (sometimes more) to get the right fit. A good pointe shoe fitting can take over an hour. A first fitting usually takes the longest as girls don’t usually know how the shoe should feel. (You should not be able to slip a pair of Grishko pointe shoes on like slippers- they should feel like second skin, really snug and supportive and sometimes it takes a lot of trial and error to achieve this.

     

    Once you have had your first pair of Pointes fitted, don’t assume you can just order the same shoe again- as you start pointe work your feet often change shape over several months so it is always good to be refitted. Remember also that most pointe shoes are hand made, and so there can be variations in the same shoe style and size due to cobbler differences, so it is always good to try on shoes before you buy them. Once you have had a particular size and model 3 times in a row, then you are probably OK to order your next pair online or mail order but in most cases, a good fitting cant be beaten!

     

    12) What happens if my feet are different sizes?

     

    Your fitter will always try and get you fitted in one pair of shoes, and there are devices by Tendu called inlays (see photo below) which can change the size of a shoe by 1/4 . See this link for how to insert

     

     

     

    However, if there is an obvious difference between your feet, it may be necessary to have 2 pairs of shoes - e.g a 5XXX on your left foot and 5.5XX on your right foot. This is not the end of the world as pointe shoes do not have a left and right- you will then have 2 pairs of pointe shoes at once but they will last you twice as long. Do be careful though- when you make up your 2 split pairs consisting of the 5XXX and the 5.5XX, make sure you alternate each pair regularly- don’t put one away in the cupboard and use only one, as chances are by the time you want to get the 2nd pair out of the cupboard, your feet will have changed in pointe work and it will not fit!

     

    13) What do I do if I am vegan?

     

    Grishko can make vegan ballet slippers and some vegan pointe shoes for vegan customers. All of our Pointe shoes with a machine stitched sole are available as vegan, but shoes with a hand stitched sole like Fouette and Vaganova are not.

     

    Vegan shoes and slippers are special order items, so you will have to be prepared to wait 6-10 weeks for them. Visit your local Grishko stockist for a fitting and they can then order them in for you. They will ask you for a deposit, and of course being special order, these items are non returnable. If they are not prepared to do this, please get in touch with us.

     

    14) What if my local Grishko stockist does not stock an item that I want?

     

    All of our Grishko stockists have access to any item made by Grishko in Russia- they can order them from us. If it is a stock item of ours it will be dispatched in a day or 2, but if we need to order it in from Russia, it may take 6-10 weeks. If you have any problems, do get in touch with us, but your local stockist is usually very happy to help!

     

    15) How do I get hold of coloured pointe shoes?

     

    Coloured pointe shoes are a special order item and any Grishko stockist can order them from us. You may need to wait 6-10 weeks. Ask your stockist for a fitting (if you do not already wear Grishko) and then ask them to order the colour you want from us.

     

    16) How is it possible for my feet to fit equally into several different widths of shoes?

     

    One of the things we have noticed with a foot that does not have good intrinsic muscle bulk under the metatarsals, is that the foot is very ‘squishable’. i. e, one can squeeze a seemingly wide foot into a narrow shoe because it does not have enough muscle bulk to hold it firm. This is of course potentially risky as you could land up in a shoe that is too narrow without knowing! This is another reason why you must work really hard to strengthen your intrinsic foot muscles. We fitters want to feel a good solid mass underneath the metatarsal area when your foot is pointed. It should not feel like we are pushing our thumbs into marshmallows.

     

     

    17) How do I attach Grishko Suede Tips?

     

    As a quicker alternative to darning your pointe shoes, Grishko offers Suede patches to attach on to the platform. Take the round part of the suede tip, and place it over the platform edge, so that the edges around the top part of the circle/ platform are smooth and flush with each other. Then fold the 'extra, overhang' part with the logo on it down towards the sole of the shoe. Depending on the size of the shoe, this may overlap the front part of the sole. If so, trim the suede patch so that it sits flat next to the front of the ballet shoe sole. (don't worry if you have to trim some of the logo off!) Then use a strong adhesive suitable for fabric / leather such a High tack or UHU strong adhesive, to glue the patch to the platform and underneath . Do check your patches before each use of your shoe- you would not want them coming off while you are dancing!!

     

    At last- I made a video!

     

    What about padding in Grishko Pointe shoes?

     

    A well fitted Grishko shoe should not need or have space for much padding at all.

    See this video for more info

     

    What are the little silicone gel Mini Toe pads used for?

     

    See this video for more

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  • Pointe Shoe Fitting Courses

    We are passionate about healthy feet for young dancers, and we expect our stockists to share this passion!

    Details

    At BalletPro Ltd t/a Grishko UK we are passionate about the correct fitting of Pointe shoes in order to prevent injury and maximise performance. We hold in-depth one day workshops on Pointe shoe fitting for stockists, teachers, dancers, and other interested people. These comprise a two-part interactive presentation as well as hands-on demonstrations of fitting techniques. The course is based on the work of Esther Juon who presented the course before moving to New Zealand. Esther is the author of Pointe shoe secrets (1995). Topics include:

     

    • Anatomy of the foot
    • Development of the dancer
    • Assessment of readiness for Pointe
    • Preparation for Pointe 
    • Fundamental step-by-step Pointe shoe fitting- practical observation of fittings
    • Grishko Pointe shoe models and selection
    • Solving problem feet (use of different shoes, customizations,  and specialized products)
    • Health and Safety aspects

     

    Participants receive detailed course notes, academic articles, posters and a certificate. Attendance will be noted on our stockist locator so customers can see which shops have been on our training day.

     

    Duration:

    10:00 am to 4:00 pm with breaks for finger lunch and tea/coffee.

     

    When:

    Courses are generally run every 4-6 months in November, March, June, on Sundays. Our next course is full.

     

    Where:

    Crowne Plaza Hotel, Birmingham NEC or Hotel near Heathrow Airport.

     

    Who for:-

    Shop fitters, (beginners or experienced) interested teachers and students,

     

    Next Course Date:

    Please email to enquire.

    PLEASE NOTE YOU HAVE TO BOOK FOR COURSES, YOU CANNOT SIMPLY ARRIVE

    CONTACT US for a booking form and more details

     

    Course Feedback

    We believe that we offer a thorough, stimulating, and informative course, and are very proud to have to have consistently achieved great feedback. Here are some real samples below:-

     

    Elly:-I found the course really helpful. I do pointe myself and it made me think about how my feet should be feeling and what position they should be in. After being on the course the first shoe I turn to when fitting is a Grishko and I feel a lot more comfortable with fitting a Grishko than any other shoe. I would go on the course again, because since then I've seen different feet that make me wonder what to do and Jayne said she found that going on the course again helped.

    Thanks for letting me be on the course, I appreciate it and enjoyed it,

     

    Linda:- I attended my first Pointe Shoe fitting course when I opened my dance shop & it was well presented & inspirational! As a nurse I was thrilled to see that caring for dancers feet is a priority throughout all fittings. I attended again, a few years later, to consolidate my knowledge after fitting several dancers. This was extremely helpful. I'd strongly recommend every fitter attend fairly regularly, to ensure that they've not developed any bad habits and also that they are up-to-date with current products and fitting practices.

     

    Keith:-Yes we have attended a Grishko Pointe shoe fitting course. We thoroughly enjoyed it, found it to be the best course we have ever attended and it has definitely helped us sell Grishko Pointe shoes.

     

    Tina:- These pointe shoe fitting courses are professionally run and invaluable to Grishko retailers, with an excellent mix of theory of foot anatomy and practical fitting of the Grishko shoes makes this pointe shoe fitting course a must for all fitters.

     

    Lynne:- The pointe shoe course was excellent and I gained expert advice enabling me to fit pointe shoes successfully. Have fitted over 500 since I took the course. It gave me a greater understanding of Grishko shoes in particular, which has helped in the fitting of these shoes, which I personally think are excellent Pointes.

     

    Samantha:- When I attended your Pointe shoe course I found it was informative on many levels. Firstly I enjoyed all the information about feet health and why it is important that the dancers feet are exercised to strengthen all the intrinsic and metatarsal muscles. Also your knowledge on your products is second to none so it gave myself the confidence to learn and get to know the products well too. The practical session was vital comparing and feeling a badly fitted shoe to a well fitted one and the information pack I took away just gave me the security of being able to recap over anything I was unsure about when back in my shop. I would attend this course again as it was informative and enjoyable.

     

    Leanne:- The pointe shoe fitting course was good to attend because I personally feel that the detail about feet was very interesting and gave vital information that I think fitters should be taught about. Plus, the fact that Grishko’s support the feet like no other brand I have tried is also wonderful and seeing the passion about keeping feet healthy in pointe shoes is of such high importance. This in particular is a great thing to teach people especially as so many other shops etc are not fitting pointe shoes correctly leading to a lot of ill fitting and injuries. I also love the way we can fit Grishkos with minimal padding because the shoes support so well and seeing the demo fitting I feel was vital in proving to delegates that a correct fitting pointe shoe should fit without the use of bulky pads. Sadly I have come across places where they don't have the level of care a grishko fitter does, so again, Grishko's in my opinion are a special shoe/brand :) I also loved the opportunity to meet fitters and shops from around the world!

     

    Jo:- Both my Mum and Myself have attended one of your Pointe shoe fitting courses. We thoroughly enjoyed the day and compared to the others we have been on yours was by far the best. The course was very informative and made us feel confident we are fitting the shoes correctly. Would definitely do another one, it's just a problem fitting it in!

     

    Anne:-The Grishko pointe shoe course was extremely helpful in perfecting the way we fit, subsequently we are selling more of your beautiful Grishko shoes. The course was very well run and we feel the option to attend further courses should always be available to refresh knowledge and to train new staff.

     

    Cathy: Myself and 3 members of staff attended a pointe shoe course run by Amanda in 2013. As the owner of 2 dance shops I had been fitting pointe shoes for over 15 years but felt that it is always useful to get another viewpoint and you will always learn something new. We were not disappointed, we learnt a great deal on that day, particularly about the anatomy and care of a dancers foot. It also was good to get confirmation of theories and ideas that I already had. It was also beneficial to meet Amanda and her team. We consequently stocked the Grishko shoes in our shop and they are a very popular shoe.

     

    Sue:- We have attended 3 courses and have enjoyed and learnt something on everyone. The courses are delivered in a professional and friendly format. I am sure we will attend further courses.

     

    Nichola:- Sophie and I thoroughly enjoyed the day, we learnt a lot and you covered far more than we expected, I found the information very accessible being a non dancer and I very much look forward to building a good stock of pointe shoes in the near future and working with you

     

    Elaine: Many thanks for yesterday, it was a very beneficial day and I am really glad I attended

     

    Lisa: I would personally like to say thank you very much for yesterday, I am not huge fan of courses but you made it very interesting & informative. Both myself & Lauren came away full of knowledge & excited to offer our pointe shoe fitting service at XXXXXX, I will send an order over this week.

     

    Gemma. I just wanted to personally say that the course was amazing today, I feel so confident now to fit my girls and felt it was incredible value for money. It was well worth the 2 hr journey. It covered so much more than I expected and in fact tomorrow I am planning on not actually doing Pointe Work with the five girls in class but assessing their feet and working with them to strengthen to help them. I feel so much more informed on everything not just the fitting side of things.

     

    Wendy: Hi Amanda, thank you for the most amazing day! We came home feeling refreshed & educated!

     

    Becky: I just wanted to thank you for the course on sunday it was so informative and have recommended it to some colleagues already.

    Amy:- Would just like to say we throughly enjoyed ourselves on Sunday

    Stacey:- Thank You for the links, I thoroughly enjoyed your course and got so much introductory skill out of it, I would really appreciate it if you would keep me posted on the next one as a refresher as I would like to get really good at this. Your structure was one of the best ever attended and I cannot see how you could have improved on this.

    Anon:- Excellent Course, well equipped in all aspects. Very informative day, really enjoyed it

    Anon:-Enjoyable course, learnt more about fitting and all shoes even though I already fit them

    Anon:- Great course and have learnt lots

    Anon:- The most informative excellent course

    Sarah:- Such an excellent day. Wonderfully prepared and presented. Incredible value for money

    Anon:- very good value for money. Well worth a second visit soon. The overall course was fantastic. Nothing else to add

    Anon:- Oh yes, no other course in the UK can begin to compare to your course. No other courses go into depth like this.